Re: Swagger is copy protected?

[Philip Rush <philip_rush@ye...fsnet.co.uk>]

The irony about Swagger being copy protected of course is that EMI  
themselves are making a copy,  After all, I bought my years ago.
Philip

A little nervously in case I get into trouble again.


On 31 Mar 2006, at 06:00, Steve Thomas wrote:

> > > grumbling over Swagger Deluxe being copy-protected or
> > > am I the only grumpy old bugger with an mp3 player?
> What's this? How did I miss that? What kind of copy protection does it
> have? Certainly not one that can't be defeated.
>
> I'm all for protecting one's IP, but I FLAT OUT REFUSE to buy anything
> that requires me to install special software (that almost certainly  
> only
> works with one or maybe two operating systems) on my computer to  
> play it.
> Figure out another way.
>
> The only "standard" CD player I have is in my car - everything else  
> is PC
> based, including my entertainment center, and I WILL NOT unnecessarily
> install anything on that machine. Even the player in my car hardly  
> ever
> gets used anymore, what with satellite radio and my mp3s (all of  
> which are
> LEGAL by the way).
>
> EMI (et al)? Are you listening? Are you hearing us? You're  
> punishing the
> law abiding without having ANY impact on the criminals, and you're  
> doing
> it while compromising the integrity of our computers - not  
> something most
> people would appreciate much, and downright insulting to us techie  
> types.
> I'm a die-hard Aeros fan, but I don't think I can buy this re- 
> release new.
> Being that it's a UK release, I'd already be paying too much for  
> it, and
> if it's got some kind of software based copy protection, it's  
> simply out
> of the question.
>
> If Altitude is the same (and I have no reason to suspect that it won't
> be), then I'll probably have to skip that one, too, and pick them  
> both up
> in a used CD shop in a year or two. I simply won't pay a premium for
> something that doesn't work as I expect and requires me to install
> software that I don't want, and I NEVER WILL.
>
> </rant>
>
> Now that that's over, I'd like to suggest to EMI and the others  
> that what
> needs to happen is for a new medium to be developed that has  
> protection
> built in from the ground up. You can't take an existing medium with  
> a well
> defined standard and an extremely wide existing consumer base and just
> tack on some fruitless attempt at copy protection. It doesn't work,  
> and it
> only serves to piss off the people who are actually paying for your
> product.
>
> I hear the record companies moaning constantly about how their  
> sales are
> dropping, and they're blaming it on the Internet. I won't argue  
> that the
> Internet could have something to do with it, but if what I read is  
> true
> (and I'm going to look into it further), then you just lost two sales
> right here - probably half the CDs I will buy/would have bought all  
> year -
> *because* of your feeble attempt at protecting the content. Food for
> thought.
>
> St-
>
>
>
> > I missed it too. I very nearly sent the "CD" back when I
> > found it wouldn't play straightforwardly on my PC and
> > I certainly don't appreciate music companies trying to
> > put their software on my PCs.
> >
> > I don't understand why the music companies want to
> > piss off people who want to give them money. Let's see:
> >
> > Option 1 - spend money to buy CD, can't play CD on
> >                computer, can't play CD in car, get unwanted
> >                software on PC undermining PC security
> >
> > Option 2 - go to net, download the mp3s, burn CD
> >                all done
> >
> > Sounds like the music companies don't want to sell
> > CDs to me......
> >
> > And why did EMI pick on the Aeroplanes? I've checked
> > the stack of CDs next to this PC and the only one out
> > of Bush/Ariel, Aeroplanes/Life, Franz/You, Polwart/Faultlines,
> > Amplifico/Hometakes, Hollow Horse/Beggarstown, Gilmour/Island,
> > Dury/Panties, Young/Greatest, Costello/Forces, Gadgets/Dreamer,
> > and Aeroplanes/Swagger  that is "copy protected" is Swagger.
> > (Actually, Gadgets Ga Ga "Dreamer" wont play on my hi-fi as the
> > disk is a funny size but plays just fine in the PC).
> >
> > Anyhow, I've got a long flight on Saturday and I'm looking
> > forward to listening to whole of Swagger a couple of times
> > on my mp3 player.
> >
> > Roger
> > --
> > Roger Shepherd rog@rc...net
> >
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