Re: Rodney Sorbet

[EDoxtator <doc6502@ya...com>]

--- Lisa Ash <chipaway@th...freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> I appreciate that, I really do (honest guv!) 

I knew I was sounding too crusty when I hit the Send button!  Sorry about 
that.

> but last time I checked, 
> no-one was paying me a fee for 2 columns in the NME!  ;o) 

Yeah, when you get that gig, you owe me a pint ;-)

> And also, 
> perhaps, to Rodney, that's as honest as it gets - sometimes the 
> simplest of things can be the most beautiful (I think it was Coleridge 
> who pointed that out?!)

Simple is some of the best music there is (IMHO)-- Nick Drake, Robyn 
Hitchcock
solo, Pavement, The Smiths, etc.  But then again, you've got Swagger, with
those multiple leads, Gerard doing... well, whatever it is that Gerard 
does... 

What I meant is that it's nearly impossible for me to read the NME or Q for
reviews-- they're so damn busy being clever-clever.  I'm now at the point 
that
I just scan the reviews to see what's out (Q's section on re-issues is
particularly useful).

-Doc

> 
> Lis
> x
> 
> 
> On 16 Jun 2004, at 20:31, EDoxtator wrote:
> 
> I agree with yer Lisa.  However, without intellectualizing, most 
> critics would
> have to find honest work.
> 
> --- Lisa Ash <chipaway@th...freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> > *Cough*...  In my (enormously!) humble opinion, I really don't think
> > it's all this complicated or constructed.  ...Your best mates in a band
> > with you, he writes songs too (niaive or otherwise, for the band or
> > not), let the man sing a few and help him if you can! (and you can have
> > that rhyme for free!).
> >
> > It's rock n roll, not University bleedin' Challenge guys!!
> >
> > Lis
> > xx
> > I lost the answer to the question I forgot I asked...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 16 Jun 2004, at 18:25, Nathaniel Mumford wrote:
> >
> >
> > i've never been able to decide with rodney whether he is faux-naif or
> > just... well.. naive. In isolation sometimes they are the perfect
> > palate cleanser to gerard's stuff - i've very very soft spots for worry
> > beads & disney head.
> >
> > but a whole albums worth of wide-eyed simplicity? Does being knowingly
> > simple make you very post modern or just toss? Frightened at night was
> > played at xmas and i still couldn't work out whether it was meant
> > seriously or not - anyone with me?
> >
> > Phil you're a brave man. Streatham these days by the way - so I'll be
> > round your house with £1.50 for it.
> >
> > nat
> >
> >> From: "martyn.owen1" <martyn.owen1@nt...com>
> >> Reply-To: blueplanes@st...net
> >> To: <blueplanes@st...net>
> >> Subject: Re: [Blueplanes] Rodney Allen
> >> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 19:38:07 +0100
> >>
> >> As I remember it a goodly portion of the lyrics were nicked from an
> >> old Paul
> >> Weller poetry book
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Philip Hendry" <philip.hendry@bb...co.uk>
> >> To: <blueplanes@st...net>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 7:31 PM
> >> Subject: RE: [Blueplanes] Rodney Allen
> >>
> >>
> >>> Rodney's the bastard son of Bragg & Weller...discuss.....
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: blueplanes-admin@st...net
> >> [mailto:blueplanes-admin@st...net]
> >> On Behalf Of Paul Vearncombe
> >>> Sent: 15 June 2004 19:22
> >>> To: blueplanes@st...net
> >>> Subject: Re: [Blueplanes] Rodney Allen
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Yeah, I've got a copy that somebody on the list made for me ages ago
> >> from
> >> their vinyl.
> >>>
> >>> I...quite like it...but it's naive and very Billy Bragg.  Serious
> >> fans
> >> only, I would suggest.
> >>>
> >>> PV2
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Nick Walters" <nickw@bl...co.uk>
> >>> To: <blueplanes@st...net>
> >>> Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 9:07 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [Blueplanes] Rodney Allen
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> PV2 did me a copy of it. So he's got it somehow!
> >>>>
> >>>> NW2323123127398127397123
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "Paul Vallis" <paulvallis@ho...com>
> >>>> To: <blueplanes@st...net>
> >>>> Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 7:05 PM
> >>>> Subject: RE: [Blueplanes] Rodney Allen
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Rodney made one solo album, Happy Sad.  I put a bid in for a copy
> >> that
> >>>> turned up on Ebay recently, but it went up well over £15, so I
> >> dipped
> >>>> out. As far as I know its never had a CD re-issue.
> >>>>
> >>>> PV1
> >>>>
> >>>> From: "Michael McKee" <mckemich@ho...com>
> >>>> Reply-To: blueplanes@st...net
> >>>> To: blueplanes@st...net
> >>>> Subject: RE: [Blueplanes] Where do you live?
> >>>> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 11:36:51 -0500
> >>>>
> >>>> The only time I ever saw the Blue Aeroplanes in concert was at Navy
> >>>> Pier
> >>> in
> >>>> Chicago in 1990. Was anybody else there? They opened up for The
> >>>> Church. Both bands were excellent, but the Aeroplanes' 3 guitar
> >>>> assault, the interpretive dancing, and Gerard's manic
> >>>> talk-shout-singing were what
> >>> really
> >>>> stood out for me.  After I bought a couple of their albums, I found
> >>>> that I especially enjoyed the songs penned by "Allen."  Is is
> >> Rodney
> >>>> Allen?  I don't remember his first name.  Does anyone know if he
> >> has
> >>>> any solo stuff available?
> >>>>
> >>>>
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